Argument Center

So this may very well be the final Argument Center. Its use will be completely determined by you. I'll check up on it every now and then, but be prepared for a somewhat delayed response. Just to let you know, this blog was a blast, so thanks a million.

Goodbye?

So this may or may not be the last post of this blog. Kind of depressing...there were such good arguments. So here's what I'm going to do. I will leave perhaps the final Argument Center tomorrow that I will refresh probably once a month or so. Also, if I feel the need to rant, I may just do it here, but I will not be focusing nearly as much on this blog anymore. Continue to feel free to post your arguments, and I can almost guarantee that I'll get to them, but know that it'll probably take longer. So goodbye, all. It was fantastic. Couldn't have kept my sanity without it.

Argument Center

I can't remember if it's been a week since the last Argument Center, but the sheer amount of (amazing) text in the last one will make any new rants/arguments slightly less convenient, so here's a new Argument Center. If you need an explanation, look to the other ACs for guidance (the last one was a gem). So here ya go.

Argument Center

By now, mostly everyone who would post on this segment knows the drill, but I think I'm obligated to explain it anyway. Reply to this post with a rant or an argument. It's as simple as that. This is your domain where you are free to frolic in the vast and beautiful fields of controversy...in other words this is your happy place, so be happy.

Argument Center

Thanks guys, for making the last argument center a thoroughly enjoyable experience. Here's the new one. As always, this is where you guys post your arguments and rants. I have no special requests for this one. However, as a point of clarification, any responses to post from the last Argument Center should be posted on this one, just to keep conversations easier to access. So here you go.

Just An Argument - Gay Marriage

I'm going to stop categorizing my posts as segments, because I have failed miserably in keeping with my own deadlines. So even though you may see a recurring post, don't expect to see it on a regular or steady basis. I live my life on a whim, so having a schedule seems absurd.

So here's just an argument.

I am growing to hate conservative arguers on the battleground of gay marriage. Seriously, they take a position of blatant discrimination and try to sound like perfectly rational people with arguments that reflect the "truth". Quite frankly, I don't care about gays or gay rights (boring arguments), but when it comes to a group of people completely disgracing the art of argument with discriminatory trash, fear-mongering, and a "holier than thou" attitude, I simply cannot ignore what has concretely established itself as my enemy. So, to my enemy, I salute you, though what you have done with my art cannot be forgiven, and I will now systematically destroy each of your ridiculous arguments in the holy name of debate.

First off, no one cares what it says about gays in the Bible except Christians. Marriage extends to all people (not just Christians) because it is not a Christian institution. Marriage is a human institution with nearly every single culture on this planet practicing it in one way or another, so what the Bible says about it is laughably irrelevant to government policy concerning it. So again, marriage is not some ancient Christian ritual that is being threatened by gays wanting to destroy it. It is an all-encompassing and ever-changing idea of bonding people together that exists in nearly all cultures, that people who are attracted to the same gender are tired of being excluded from.

Second, bringing up the high divorce rate in the U.S. as an argument against gay marriage is not only irrelevant, but completely stupid because gays haven't had the right to marry yet. This argument works against you and you fail to recognize this fact. How can it be gays that have failed the marital process when it is the heterosexual couples who are getting divorced?

Third, there is no way to "choose" who you are attracted to. I fail to understand how gayness would be a choice. Can any straight person look at any woman and say to his or herself, "I choose to be attracted to that person."? Of course not. Now I'm not saying that people are born with gayness either, but saying that that's the only other alternative is ludicrous. Environment and culture probably influence us exponentially more than genetic makeup, but going on with this would be getting off the topic of destroying stupid arguments, so I'll stop.

Fourth, polygamy has absolutely nothing to do with gay marriage. I've seen such ridiculous arguments that somehow tie gender of spouse with the number of spouses. If you want to argue against polygamy, that's fine, but don't argue against polygamy to someone who wants to marry the same gender. That, I think, would be a good definition of insanity (or stupidity).

Fifth, the argument that gay marriages should not be allowed based on the fact that they can't have kids is simply not right. Sterile heterosexuals have absolutely no trouble getting married despite their inability to have children. Also, the fear that married gays would not provide the proper family structure to children they adopt seems to be undermined by the fact that kids living in orphanages are already living without those social "structures" that are so necessary, not to mention the fact that single parents are socially acceptable despite them not having the stupid structure. So even if I were to concede to the argument that an ideal gay couple couldn't raise a child as well as an ideal straight couple (I'm not, by the way), saying that a kid without parents couldn't benefit from the care of a gay couple is so arrogant that it is liable to make one's head explode.

Now, even though I doubt that this post will stop you, my enemy, from continuing this blasphemous style of argument, know that not everyone in this country is buying your outrageous claim to rationality. You may think that you know better than everyone who doesn't think the same way as you, but you should probably say things that are less stupid if you want others to believe this too. You may or may not realize it, but these kinds of views and the people that back them are a dying breed, and someday very soon, you will experience what it feels like to be a minority, with only the ability to hope that the majority is more understanding and tolerant than you have been all of this time.

Your Enemy,
Chad

Argument Center

Here's the new argument center. The last one went well, so I feel the need to change it up a little. You can still post whatever you want, but this time try to keep it within the category of government. Again, feel free to completely disregard the topic, but it's been a while since I've gotten into a good government argument, so post on topic if you want to make me happier than a copious amount of clams.

The Weeklyish Rant - Abolishing the Penny

Now for another new segment called...Weeklish Rant. Every week (or so, hence the "ish") I'll post a rant or something comparable for everyone to argue against (or agree with, but that's not nearly as fun is it?) . Any comments absolutely must have a arguable position to them, that way the discussion cuts to the chase. This will hold true for most of the things I post on this blog. So everyone enjoy The Weeklyish Rant.
It came to my attention a few years ago that Congress had proposed a bill to abolish the penny, and I don't mean just not making them anymore. They wouldn't be accepted as currency anymore. What kind of petty bullshit is that? Sure, making the penny costs more than its value in our currency, but who gives a damn? When you consider that the government just basically threw away 700 billion dollars on a bailout that did nothing but encourage the paranoia that the economy is falling apart, a few million here and there is fairly inconsequential, especially when it comes to protecting such a culturally important coin. "See a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have good luck." "A penny saved is a penny earned." "Penny for your thoughts." "A penny is a lot of money, if you have not got a penny." The list of wonderful quotes goes on and on. Kids are taught at a very young age to save their pennies. Nickels are no fun, so kids will effectively become bored with the concept of saving and building wealth, thereby perpetuating the problems with the economy for years.
Even going beyond all of this intangible argument, getting rid of the penny is still crap. What happens when stores can't charge any price that where the cents doesn't end in a five or a zero? They'll just round their prices up to accomodate for it. Getting rid of the penny would effectively instill a nationwide two-and-a-half cent tax on every single purchase, not to mention price increases/decreases would be more drastic, putting pressure on both the consumer and business owners.
My last argument concerns the luck and wishes of this nation. Picking a penny heads-up is a sure way to keep yourself on the positive side of luck. And what about wishes? What are we going to throw into the wishing well for our wishes if there are no pennies? Anything silver is bad luck, and cats really don't like to be thrown into wells, so they're out too. The penny is the wonderfully capitalistic American version of the Leprechaun, and we should look to precedent when considering abolishing it. I'm sure you all remember what happened when the Irish abolished leprechauns. They had a potato famine that killed thousands of people! Is this what you want for the U.S.?! A lack of french fries and assumedly thousands of people commiting suicide because of it?! Well, I for one, say no! Protect the penny so we can keep our spuds!!!

Argument Center

Here is a new segment that I like to call...Argument Center. This is the post you comment on if you want to get your rant or argument out there. The subject of these rants is completely up to you, and the length of them is completely inconsequential. This is the segment that is going to be the least organized, but it allows everyone to get their word in about anything, so enjoy. I will post a new Argument Center every week to keep things recent.

The First

And so begins an experiment of mine that I have a sneaking suspicion will fail horribly, but since I love arguing so much, I'll risk losing a bit of confidence in the blogging system for the chance of getting into an incredible argument. To kick this thing off, I have the urge to post my all-encompassing philosophy, so here it is. It's all relative. Remember it, because you will undoubtedly hear me say it over and over again. There is no absolute truth. There are only an infinite amount of perceptions and paths of logic based on those perceptions, all of them equally wrong...and right. So, with that in mind, know that when I argue two different sides of an issue, I'm not really contradicting myself.
I apologize for all of the preachy stuff. I promise I won't do it often. All I want to communicate is that there are no right answers in An Argument Paradise, because an argument can't survive when a "right" answer exists, but for the love of God, stand by your argument as if it is Truth with a capital T and the only answer possible, and if you start to feel you're losing an argument, keep going. Eventually you'll find an opening. Have fun with this blog for God's sake! It's just like a big competition with no prizes! Hurray for nothing being at stake!!!